What's The Point?!
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We believe that Five Element Acupuncture can be misunderstood and underrepresented. So we decided to create this podcast with the intention of providing a better understanding of the many benefits of Five Element treatment and creating more public awareness.
Hosted by Ben Worsley (Musician & receiver of Five Element Acupuncture) & Gabriella Doran (a Five Element Acupuncturist & Ben's Acupuncturist!)
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What's The Point?!
What Are Colour, Sound, Odour & Emotion?!
đ¨ Welcome back to a brand new season of Whatâs The Point?! In this season, Ben & Gabriella are exploring the Five Elements in depth but first Ben asks Gabriella: What Are Colour, Sound, Odour, and Emotion?!
They engage in their signature banter as they discuss the significance of these sensory cues in understanding the body's imbalances. From the subtle hues around the eyes to the tones of one's voice, each element offers valuable insights into a person's well-being.
Through humorous anecdotes and insightful explanations, Gabriella sheds light on how these sensory cues act as signals that show imbalances within a person. The practitioner can then treat the patient correctly based on these observations.
Join them on their journey of discovery as they uncover the intricate connections between nature, health, and the human experience.
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Pt 1
Ben: Welcome back to a brand new season of Whatâs The Point?! I bet youâve enjoyed some time off from my pesky questions eh Gabriella?
Gabriella: Oh god another question already, Ben?
Ben: Ha yes it is but I think I may have lost my question asking touch, as I donât have a clue what to ask?
Gabriella: Well, at the end of our last series, we took a look at the five seasons associated with each element, and the focus of this series is going to be on enriching our knowledge of each one. Weâll start to build up a picture of how the unique qualities of each element manifest in us, and each oneâs unique contribution to our health.
Before we start learning more about each element, Iâm going to talk about our four main diagnostic tools, which you may remember from the episode âWhatâs in an acupuncturistâs toolkit?â
Ben: Colour, Sound, Odour and Emotion.
Gabriella: A couple of minutes into season 2 and I might have to get a gold star out! Youâre right Ben! Colour, Sound, Odour and Emotion
Ben: Ooooo OK Iâve got it!⌠So, Gabriella, what are Colour, Sound, Odour and Emotion?
Gabriella: Thatâs the one!⌠Canât find my gold stars anywayâŚ
Ben: Here they areâŚ
Gabriella: AnywayâŚ.Colour, Sound, Odour, & Emotion our four diagnostic tools, Ben!
Ben: How so?
Gabriella: Remembering that weâre working with the laws of nature, when an organ or energetic function goes out of balance on any level within us - physically, mentally or emotionally for example, our body is sending out distress signals that somethingâs out of balance. These distress signals, in the form of Colour, Sound, Odour and Emotion arise way before symptoms arise. They are a way of getting our attention that something is off balance. In the West however, weâre not trained to look for them, and they go unnoticed, often resulting in symptoms or labelled disease. A major part of a Five Element Acupuncturistâs training is in learning to recognise these âsignsâ, and we base our diagnosis on our findings, rather than on the presenting symptoms.
Do you know the difference between the medical terms âsignsâ and âsymptomsâ, Ben?
Ben: Iâm a musician not a physician!
Gabriella: Ok, well a symptom is an indication of disease that is only apparent to the patient him or herself. Whereas a sign is an indication of disease that the physician can also perceive. In other words, the sign is an objective indication of disease and the symptoms are subjective, or what the patient actually experiences.
Ben: AhaaaâŚ
Gabriella: So a rash is a sign, because it can be seen by others as well as the person experiencing it. We can hear someone coughing, or take their temperature when they have a fever, so these are signs. Whereas a symptom is something thatâs only apparent to the patient. I can only understand someoneâs headaches or their fatigue for example if they describe them to me. I can only imagine what theyâre experiencing. I canât see or feel their symptoms, only they can, and I wouldnât know they had them unless they told me.
Ben: So what are the signs youâre looking for?
Gabriella: While we listen carefully to the patient describing the symptoms they experience, we observe signs, which in the case of Five Element Acupuncture, are Colour, Sound, Odour and Emotion. The first three, ie Colour, Sound and Odour are signs. We can see colour, hear sounds and smell odour.
Ben: And emotion?
Gabriella: Part of our training is learning to become aware of how we are experiencing another person. We may feel an internal jar, we may feel in ourselves that something is out of balance in that person if they are exhibiting an emotion inappropriately. Because we are all Five Elements, itâs appropriate for us to feel all emotions in an appropriate situation, however those emotions should flow and come and go at the right moments. Therefore, while emotion is neither a sign nor a symptom, it is an important part of the picture.
So, to summarise: we all have a predominant colour, we all have a predominant sound to our voice, we all have a predominant odour; these are all uniquely ours. And we should be able to experience emotions as they come and go, however we can get stuck and express one emotion predominantly. Thatâs what weâre looking for with all of these, what is inappropriate, whatâs jarring, or sticking out. Colour, Sound, Odour and Emotion point to the particular imbalance in our patient that weâre going to address and rebalance. If we started trying to add up or calculate a formula to treat all the symptoms our patients tells us theyâre experiencing, our brains would just get in a big muddle and not know where to begin - wait until I talk about the Law of Mother/Child - youâll understand then why it would be such a muddle. Signs, in our case Colour, Sound, Odour and Emotion, or CSOE as we often refer to them, are direct messages to our senses giving information about the cause of imbalance and so leading us to our diagnosis and following treatment plan!
Ben: Are there other ways you can diagnose?
Gabriella: In the coming episodes, as I talk more about the elements, you will hear me describe correspondences associated with each element. Only Colour, Sound, Odour and Emotion are used diagnostically while the other correspondences are qualities that can contribute to us understanding the overall balance of nature in each person, however they are not diagnostic. CSOE are where itâs at! So basically, no, I can only make a diagnosis from my observations of CSOE.
Ben: Ok, so can you tell me some more about CSOE?
Gabriella: Letâs start with colour. Colour has always been something Iâve loved, I could never be a minimalist Ben, I love colour too much! I blame my Hungarian heritage - but who needs excuses?
Ben: Well Iâm a minimalist and I love colour!
Gabriella: What? I thought minimalists only liked Black and White.
Ben: But Black & White are colours Gabriella! Anyway, what DOES colour mean in Five Element Acupuncture?
Gabriella: Well, firstly, itâs not the colour of the skin, or the complexion.
Ben: Right. So is it the patientâs favourite colour then?
Gabriella: No, thatâs just personal taste (or lack of taste in the case of beige)
Ben: Hey, I thought you said you didnât judge, Gabriella!
Gabriella: Oopsie. Beige⌠wonderful colour⌠great word too⌠beige⌠umm anyway, Colour to us isnât about what the patient likes or dislikes, although it is an interesting observation to note any particular likes or dislikes. Interesting, but not diagnostic. What is diagnostic, is this colour that appears on us, to a greater or lesser degree, that gives the practitioner one sign that leads to diagnosis of where the imbalance is. Ben: And where does it appear? Gabriella: The only reliable place to see it is by the temples, just lateral to our eyes. Itâs like a sheen, or a hue, that sits above the skin. It seems to come and go as the patient moves. Have you ever looked at a fish or a snake as they move? Thereâs a kind of iridescence that comes and goes with the movement. Thatâs like the way we can see colour on someone. Itâs there, we must âseeâ it all the time but itâs generally not until we retrain our senses that we become aware of it.
Ben: Do you see it all the time?
Gabriella: No, but Iâm aware of it as opposed to not being aware of it before I trained. So I see it some of the time. The best time to see it, is when weâre not âlookingâ for it. Itâs best to observe in natural light, and much more difficult to pick up in artificial light. In some people itâs really clear and obvious, in others itâs much more subtle.
Ben: Does it mean the person is more sick if itâs strong?
Gabriella: Not necessarily, in some people the colour is the predominant distress signal, in others some of the other diagnostic tools such as the odour, the sound of the voice or the emotion are stronger. It just shows us what the imbalance is, not the degree of imbalance, or illness.
Ben: What are the colours then?
Gabriella: The colour of Wood is green - the main colour of most plants. Fire, probably not surprisingly, is Red.
Ben: Some flames are blue.
Gabriella: No need to put a spanner in the works Ben! Yes, some flames ARE blue but mostly the colour that comes to mind when we think of Fire is red, or reddy/orange. Earth is yellow, Metal is white and Water is blue. Iâll go more into why each colour is the colour of its element as I talk about each element in the following episodes.
Ben: So, what do you mean by Sound?
Gabriella: Well, we all know that each personâs voice sounds different. Some people sound upbeat, almost like theyâre laughing or excited all the time, while others sound like life is about the most boring thing that ever happened to them, with no animation or colour in their voice at all.
Ben: OkayyyyâŚ
Gabriella: Well there is a sound associated with each element. The energy of that element influences the, letâs say âmusicâ of a personâs voice. You can hear it perhaps more easily at times when a person is experiencing stress, or when they are relating something that conveys an experience that was difficult or painful, but remember itâs not the words, itâs the sound that gives us the information
Ben: So youâre not listening to the words then?
Gabriella: Of course Iâm listening to them, but think of it as the music in the voice and not the meaning of the words that is the diagnostic information.
Ben: Right. Can you give an example?
Gabriella: Sure. Letâs think about Wood, which as we said is the element associated with spring.
Ben: Is the sound boiinnnggg?
Gabriella: Good guess, Ben, and even better sound effect! But no. Thatâs just the action that nature is doing, itâs kind of boinging upwards! Spring is associated with new life and birth - of all types of animal, or seeds as they push out of the ground. Push is a good word. The time comes during labour when the woman giving birth is asked to push. So you have this energetic movement, pushing. Remember we also talked about the exuberance of spring - itâs loud, itâs proud, it bursts out with a bang. So we call the sound associated with spring âshoutingâ
Ben: Oh! So itâs a loud voice?
Gabriella: Actually, not necessarily! Itâs the quality, so it could be quiet, but still has a pushing, coming forth feeling, like itâs coming at you, hitting you in the face, talking at you. The excitement and exuberance of youth!
Ben: Ok, I kind of get that. What are the other sounds then?
Gabriella: So, Fire is âlaughingâ, Earth is âsingingâ Metal is âweepingâ and Water is âgroaningâ. Each one will make more sense when we talk about the element, so Iâll explain more in each episode.
Ben: You do like to keep us in suspense, donât you Gabriella?
Gabriella: Oh yes! Why do television series always end with a cliffhanger? Personally, I hate spoilers, so I prefer to give you each thing at the right time, so you understand in the right context - in this case, in the context of the whole element. But we can think of it in terms of appropriate versus inappropriate sound, so for example, youâd expect to perceive some level of joy in a personâs voice when they tell you about something that made them happy, but if you ignore the meaning of the words being spoken, and listen as you might to a piece of music, you may notice in that particular voice that the pattern of it is evoking sadness in you, rather than joy.
Ben: Oh joy, itâs time for a break!
Gabriella: Oh joy, two minutes without questions
Ben: Youâre such a bundle of joy Gabriella (last 3 lines fading as music comes in)
Pt 2
Ben: So tell me about odour Gabriella
Gabriella: Well, we say that our sense of smell is the most important sense
Ben: Whyâs that?
Gabriella: The part of the brain responsible for our sense of smell is the olfactory cortex. This is essential for our processing and perception of odour, and is part of the limbic system.
Now, the limbic system, as well as processing emotions, survival instincts and memory formation, also links senses, such as smells, to memories and emotions. So it activates my senses which are so important for me as a diagnostician.
Ben: Do you have a really strong sense of smell then?
Gabriella: Well, itâs much better than it was. Iâve worked on âretrainingâ it over the years. I used to be so embarrassed sometimes at playgroup with my kids when they were babies. The other mothers would occasionally wrinkle up their noses and pick up their babies and sniff their bum, checking their child wasnât the culprit of the noxious smell that had just filled the room. Oblivious to the stink, I only did the same when I noticed everyone else engaging in this frantic motion. I couldnât smell a thing, but when I got my nose really close, it turned out my baby was the one who needed changing! Embarrassing! All those eyes, judging me! So, when I started training in acupuncture, I thought Iâd be rubbish at the smelling part of our diagnosis. However itâs possible to reactivate our sense of smell, or train it. So Iâd just smell everything! Not just food and drink, but everyday things like spoons, paper, clothes, my jewellery, bedclothes, my chair or sofa. Outdoors Iâd deliberately take in things we normally avoid, like rubbish bins on the street-
Ben: Dog poo?
Gabriella: Ummm⌠no I canât confess to stooping quite that low, Ben. Rubbish trucks are good though. Gosh, theyâre ripe! I still wouldnât say I have the strongest sense of smell, but a few years back I noticed one morning how much it had improved. I was walking to my clinic and I smelled a faint odour of frankincense in the air a few houses before I reached the church where my clinic was. It was a Wednesday morning, and they had a service on Wednesdays when the vicar would use frankincense! Iâd never have picked up such a subtle nuance in the air twenty years ago.
As children our sense of smell is really acute - in fact all of our senses are acute - but we lose it because we donât use it. In refocussing our attention on a particular sense, that helps us to reactivate it.
Kids have a good sixth sense, good intuition, good feelings but itâs not encouraged in the Western world. We encourage our kids to learn using the academic part of our brain but do we train our kids to use their senses? A huge part of our brains is taken up with receiving sensory information, but we prioritise other information and ignore most of the sensory messages.
Ben: So what do your patients smell like?
Gabriella: The odour weâre picking up is normally quite subtle though sometimes it can be strong. It is, just like Colour, Sound and Emotion, a sign that an element is out of balance.
Ben: Whereâs it coming from?
Gabriella: Well, letâs take the odour of the Fire element as an example. Fire is responsible for the warmth we need in our bodies, and we all know the smell of something burning. So when Fire goes out of balance in our bodies, a scorched burning smell can be what we smell because the whole system is starting to overheat. Sometimes it smells like when you iron your clothes on the hottest setting, or burnt toast, hot blood, or burnt flesh, like when your dadâs overdone the sausages on the barbie!
Ben: Hmmm⌠not sure I like the sound of that. Isnât there a better odour?
Gabriella: Well, firstly, you donât have a choice! Itâs the imbalance of nature that causes the odours. Secondly, Iâm not sure youâll like the others any better. The other odours are rotten, putrid, rancid and fragrant.
Ben: Ooh, fragrant sounds alright
Gabriella: Well, fragrant is the odour of the Earth element out of balance. Youâll learn later down the line that one of the functions Earth is responsible for is the processing of food, so the odour that comes from imbalance in Earth can be like unprocessed food, a bit sicky or vomity.
Ben: Right, not very fragrant then. Well perhaps Iâll just⌠douse myself in perfume as none of these odours sound particularly savoury. (SFX of spraying perfume!)
Gabriella: (coughs!) You could, but I ask people not to wear heavy scents when they come for treatment!
Ben: Doh! Canât win here! Shall we move on to Emotion now?
Gabriella: Ok, how you feeling Ben?
Ben: Iâm sad
Gabriella: Well Iâm angry!
Ben: Oh that makes me happy now.
Gabriella: I feel quite emotional about that, Ben
Ben: Pull yourself together, Gabriella! Weâve got a podcast to deliverâŚ
Gabriella: True. And deliver it we shall! Okay, Emotion. Weâll talk about our fourth diagnostic tool, emotion, shortly, but letâs think back to the sense of smell again. If engaging my sense of smell is activating the limbic system, which in turn activates my emotions and memory, think about how important it is in my practice. Not only will the odour of a patient help me tune in to their emotions, by activating my memory it also helps me to recall the salient information about this patient. Not just their presenting symptom, but secondary complaints and even seemingly small details like what they do in their spare time, or where theyâre going on holiday, or the names of their children or their cat or dog. Thereâs a reassurance about coming to someone who does take care to know you and a bit about your life.
Anyway, importantly, Emotion is our last - but not least - diagnostic tool. We should all be able to feel all of the emotions, at the appropriate time. AndâŚ
Ben: Donât tell me, when nature goes out of balance⌠one of the emotions will show up
Gabriella: Thatâs right Ben! Itâs like we get stuck in one particular emotion. Itâs another distress signal from the body saying âHelp! Something is offâ. We can kind of fall into this stuck emotion, and use it like a protective mask, or shield. Although itâs not really serving us, itâs kind of a default that flavours our interaction with the world around us.
Ben: How do you recognise this emotion thatâs stuck?
Gabriella: Well, emotions arenât things we can âthink.â We feel them. Itâs way beyond a brain activity, we feel emotion through our bodies. So we learn to recognise how we feel in the presence of a person.
Ben: Can we have one of your famous examples to illustrate that, Gabriella?
Gabriella: Sure! I love painting pictures with words to illustrate what Iâm trying to convey. So, Iâve asked my mumâs consent to describe the emotion of fear through her. Fear is the emotion of the Water element - weâll dive âdeeperâ in to this next time when we talk about Water. But just for a moment, imagine youâre âstuckâ in the emotion fear, and everyday things or happenings become fearful to you. Understanding imbalance in nature definitely letâs say âeasedâ my relationship with my mum. Instead of being irritated at little things, (like the way sheâd always dramatically gasp and clasp onto the car door handle when I made a left turn, which in turn put me on edge as I was driving), I was able to engage my compassion, and imagine what it must be like to live in fear all the time. Every moment an underlying current of fear or panic over every day, small things that to most of us seem trivial. Throughout my life, Iâve had a phone call from Mum every now and then saying âI canât find my pearl necklaceâ or âIâve lost those gold and garnet earrings I bought when I visited you in Kathmanduâ.
She was genuinely in a panic. I would constantly reassure her. âDonât worry mum, youâll have put them in a good hiding place. Theyâll turn up.â
âAre you sure?â sheâd ask. âPositiveâ would be my reply. Sheâd repeatedly remind me she still hadnât found them when I saw her and was sure they must be lost. Sheâd say she needed me to tell her sheâd find them. âYouâll find themâ was my mantra.
And sure enough, sometimes months later, sheâd call me to say sheâd found the lost item. I think that damned pearl necklace was even a year or two in hiding. But she was so scared of losing things that sheâd hide them so well that she couldnât find them!
And if weâd had one of those little arguments that mother and daughter have every now and then, sheâd always be frightened weâd fallen out forever. After weâd both cooled down, she would always need me to reassure her that we were still friends.
Sheâs taken to new technology pretty well, and has a smart phone and a laptop, but every now and then I get a call asking for the âhelp desk.â Itâs invariably something like sheâs got so far with a purchase, but is frightened of clicking the final button in case she does something wrong. Itâs like sheâs going to press the button for the bomb! Like her entire life is going to change dramatically and irreversibly, instead of simply going ahead and buying that book!
Ben: That does sound exhausting
Gabriella: Youâre telling me! Each little thing may seem petty, but if you add it all up and your whole life is flavoured with that level of fear and panic, it must be pretty hard work.
Ben: What are the other emotions Gabriella?
Gabriella: The emotion of Wood is Anger, Fire is Joy, Earth is Sympathy and Metal is Grief. I canât wait to go further into these over the coming weeks as we explore each element in depth.
Conclusion
Ben: So, whatâs the point? What do Colour, Sound, Odour & Emotion have to do with Five Element Acupuncture?
Gabriella: Well, tell me what youâve learned from this episode, Ben
Ben: So nature sends out warning signs when its natural flow is going out of balance - a colour, a sound, an odour and an emotion.
Gabriella: Thatâs right. And what role do they play in diagnosis?
Ben: In the same way a bruise will show bleeding underneath the skin, the body also sends out signals that display imbalances which can manifest in these four ways. Each one provides valuable insights into the state of our health and well-being, so practitioners can then tailor treatments to address the root causes of imbalance.
Gabriella: Great work Ben. And donât forget itâs the inappropriate or jarring expression of colour, sound, odour or emotion that gives us the clues we need to diagnose our patients.
Ben: And thatâs a wrap for now! Join us next time as I ask Gabriella, What Is Water?!
Gabriella: Itâs that clear liquid that you drink, bathe in, you know the one thatâs the very foundation of all life on Earth?
Ben: Ahh, question answered then! No need for the next episode in that case!
Gabriella: Yay! Iâm off the hook! No more infuriating questions!
Ben: I think youâll find Iâll come up with something by next week, especially if it means infuriating you Gabriella!
Gabriella: Great⌠Well until then, stay curious and keep asking questionsâŚbut donât ask meâŚleave me alone! Iâm on strike! Goodbye for now!
Ben: Donât worry, sheâll come around folksâŚbye for now!